Legislature(2001 - 2002)

04/18/2001 01:44 PM House FIN

Audio Topic
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
HOUSE BILL NO. 236                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act  relating  to  the  contracting  and  financing                                                                   
     authority  of  the  Alaska  Industrial  Development  and                                                                   
     Export  Authority; authorizing  the  authority to  issue                                                                   
     bonds in  a principal amount  not to exceed  $76,000,000                                                                   
     to  finance   the  acquisition,  design,   construction,                                                                   
     inventory,  and operation of  natural gas, propane  air,                                                                   
     or manufactured gas public utility facilities; and                                                                         
     providing for an effective date."                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
RANDY  RUARO,  STAFF, REPRESENTATIVE  WILLIAMS  testified  in                                                                   
support   of  the   legislation.   He  explained   that   the                                                                   
legislation would provide the  legislative approval necessary                                                                   
for the  Alaska Industrial  Development and Export  Authority                                                                   
(AIDEA)  to  review the  Southeast  and  Gulf of  Alaska  gas                                                                   
project for bond funding, required  under AS 44.88.095(g) for                                                                   
projects  over $10 million  dollars. Approval  does not  mean                                                                   
that  the  project  would  be   funded  as  there  are  other                                                                   
statutory requirements. There is a zero fiscal note.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Williams noted  that it  was not  his intention  to                                                                   
move the bill from committee at that time.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
PAUL  RUSANOWSKI, SENIOR  VICE  PRESIDENT OPERATIONS,  ALASKA                                                                   
INTRASTATE  GAS COMPANY,  ANCHORAGE  spoke in  support of  HB
236.  He noted  that  the  project  would bring  utility  gas                                                                   
utility service to Southeast and  Gulf of Alaska communities.                                                                   
The project  is based on  the production, transportation  and                                                                   
storage  of liquid  natural  gas,  liquid petroleum  gas  and                                                                   
manufactured  gases. The  company is  approved by the  Alaska                                                                   
Public  Utilities   Commission  in  17  communities   and  is                                                                   
involved  in long-term  operations and  maintenance of  local                                                                   
gas distribution  systems. They contract with  communities to                                                                   
provide   gas  supplies   and   marine  transportation.   The                                                                   
communities involved include:  4 in the Gulf of Alaska and 13                                                                   
in  Southeast Alaska.  The legislation  would  allow them  to                                                                   
expand to include five more communities  in Southeast Alaska.                                                                   
Juneau,  Ketchikan, Sitka  and  Kodiak would  be the  largest                                                                   
communities  served. He  projected  a residential  load of  5                                                                   
billion  cubic  feet  annually   (for  all  four  communities                                                                   
combined)  within 5 years  of startup.  He estimated  that an                                                                   
additional  3.7   billion  cubic   feet  of  commercial   and                                                                   
industrial  loads would  be available.  He stated that  there                                                                   
would  be 10  to 12  billion cubic  feet  annually, about  10                                                                   
years out in the project.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Rusanowski provided  members  with a  handout of  slides                                                                   
that were  projected during  his presentation(copy  on file).                                                                   
He  reviewed the  slides. He  noted that  gases move  through                                                                   
pipes   to  a  processing   facility   and  are  stored   and                                                                   
transported.  They are then  re-injected into storage  fields                                                                   
and  stored  as  liquids. Supplies  would  come  from  Prince                                                                   
Rupert, which is the closest point.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. reviewed major components  of the project: acquisition of                                                                   
gas supplies,  transportation, storage and  distribution. Gas                                                                   
would come from Northern British  Columbia and Southern Yukon                                                                   
Alberta  and Prince  Rupert Canada  have  active gas  fields.                                                                   
Marine  transportation  involves  three  different  modes:  a                                                                   
barge  (1  million  gallon  capacity),   railcar  aqua  train                                                                   
(180,000 and  500,000 existing  capacity) and existing  small                                                                   
bulk gas carriers (500,000 to 2 million capacity).                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Croft  questioned what  would  happen in  the                                                                   
event  of a  collision or  spill  of a  liquefied gases.  Mr.                                                                   
Rusanowski explained  that they would float out  on the water                                                                   
and  vaporize. Some  would  dissolve in  the  water but  most                                                                   
would  be vaporized.  There would  not be  an expulsion.  The                                                                   
double haul  is designed  to prevent  damage to the  internal                                                                   
tanks. It  is easier to  repair the hull  than to  repair the                                                                   
tanks. The purpose is not containment.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Rusanowski showed slides of  existing facilities (copy on                                                                   
file.) He  stressed that the  residential and  small business                                                                   
service is  their focus. Residential  service is  expected at                                                                   
$7.25  dollars  per  cubic feet  and  $7.95  dollars  monthly                                                                   
service  charge. He  compared  the proposed  rate with  other                                                                   
states. The rate would be about  .40 cents above the national                                                                   
average, but competitive to Northeastern states.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Once gas comes  to the communities operations  and management                                                                   
costs  would  be  under  the control  of  the  company.  Debt                                                                   
service  is 30  percent. Fuel  represents 62  percent of  the                                                                   
cost structure  and transportation represents 32  percent. He                                                                   
emphasized  that  efficiency would  impact  costs.  Wholesale                                                                   
liquid petroleum  prices from Canada during the  last 4 years                                                                   
have ranged  from .20 to .40  cents. He estimated  their cost                                                                   
at .25 to .30 cents a gallon.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Croft noted that  prices have increased in the                                                                   
last years.  Mr. Rusanowski agreed  that prices had  gone up,                                                                   
but  explained that  the higher  prices are  not holding.  He                                                                   
explained  that  natural  gas  is  a  single  carbon  methane                                                                   
molecular. Liquid  petroleum gases  are gases at  near normal                                                                   
temperature  such   as  ethane,  propane,  and   butanes.  He                                                                   
explained that liquid petroleum  gases are now being put into                                                                   
the  natural   gas  stream  in  pipelines   throughout  North                                                                   
America. The natural gas stream  had been previously returned                                                                   
to  oilfields   to  maintain  pressure  or  used   to  create                                                                   
specialty products  such as  bottled propane. Propane  stores                                                                   
well  and  indefinitely.  All  the gases  that  go  into  the                                                                   
pipeline are  indistinguishable at  the burner tip.  Each one                                                                   
provides a different amount of  energy. Gases are balanced to                                                                   
provide a stable energy content.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Rusanowski compared  petroleum  gases to  crude oil.  He                                                                   
noted that their  prices are linked. When there  are peaks in                                                                   
crude oil prices, petroleum gases do not follow as sharply.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Rusanowski  referred  to community  energy  surveys.  He                                                                   
noted that the annual energy consumption  in Southeast Alaska                                                                   
is 165 million BTU per year. The  average cost of fuel oil in                                                                   
rural Southeast Alaska was $1.74  dollars per gallon in 1999.                                                                   
The average annual  cost of fuel is $2,700 dollars  a year in                                                                   
small communities.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
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Mr.  Rusanowski discussed  savings for  rural homeowners.  He                                                                   
estimated that  there would  be a 15  to 40 percent  savings.                                                                   
Those with the highest electric  rates have the best savings.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative John  Davies questioned what  assumptions were                                                                   
made  regarding  amortization  of infrastructure  costs.  Mr.                                                                   
Rusanowski  noted  that  those  cost were  not  included.  An                                                                   
incentive  program was  built in  to allow  cost recovery  of                                                                   
those modifications in 5 years or less.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Rusanowski  reviewed a  slide that  compared the  gas and                                                                   
electric cost  to operate  a clothes  dryer in Anchorage  and                                                                   
their service  area (page  7 of  handout). He concluded  that                                                                   
the  stable  pricing  structure   makes  it  advantageous  to                                                                   
convert to gas.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Rusanowski  explained that  their estimates use  a 9-year                                                                   
build  out scenario.  He added  that they  expect the  actual                                                                   
build out to be  only 6 to 7 years. He anticipated  a bump in                                                                   
the fourth year  as the first three communities  come on line                                                                   
and then steady growth from that point.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Rusanowski  discussed marketing  incentives, which  would                                                                   
make it  in the interest  of the  public to convert.  Juneau,                                                                   
Ketchikan  and  Sitka  would  be  the  first  communities  to                                                                   
receive services. Klawock and  Craig would most likely be the                                                                   
next two served.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Croft noted  that  Angoon and  Kake have  the                                                                   
lowest  percent  benefit and  questioned  why  they would  be                                                                   
among  the  first  served.  Mr.  Rusanowski  noted  that  the                                                                   
scenario  is  based on  transportation  logistics.  The  plan                                                                   
takes advantage of the fact that  the route would go by these                                                                   
communities,  because of  the size they  could be  engineered                                                                   
quickly. Savings  would be less in these  smaller communities                                                                   
due  to  the  cost  for  waterfront   storage  and  send  out                                                                   
facilities.   The  infrastructure  is   the  same   in  every                                                                   
community. There is a small population  to serve, but a large                                                                   
volume of  gas still needs to  be available. There  are fewer                                                                   
people to amortize against.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Rusanowski  noted that  there would be  200 or  more jobs                                                                   
created  during construction.  There  would  be 15  permanent                                                                   
full time jobs created in Juneau,  another 35 jobs throughout                                                                   
other  areas  of Southeast  Alaska  and  50 or  more  related                                                                   
secondary industry jobs.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Rusanowski  observed  that  there  would  be  an  equity                                                                   
investment of $11.5 million dollars  and loans of $45 million                                                                   
dollars. There would be internally  generated revenues of $13                                                                   
million  dollars.  Infrastructure  costs in  the  communities                                                                   
would be $45 million dollars.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Rusanowski  pointed  out   that  HB  239  would  provide                                                                   
legislative  approval  for  a  utility project  of  over  $10                                                                   
million dollars  and authorizes a  bond limit of  $76 million                                                                   
dollars. There  would be  a sunset date  of July 1,  2006 for                                                                   
issuance of bonds. This would  allow focus on the development                                                                   
and   finance   program   in  AIDEA,   which   would   target                                                                   
development,  ownership  and  operation  of  facilities  like                                                                   
road, ports  and utilities. These  projects would need  to be                                                                   
essential   to  the  economic   well   being  of  the   area,                                                                   
financially feasible and supported  by local communities. The                                                                   
project  would  move  into the  due  diligence  and  economic                                                                   
feasibility  review  with  AIDEA   when  the  legislation  is                                                                   
passed.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Whitaker  asked if there is a  downside to the                                                                   
project.  Mr.  Rusanowski did  not  think  there would  be  a                                                                   
downside  to introducing  gas utilities  to the  communities.                                                                   
The  service   would  enhance   infrastructure  and   provide                                                                   
different  opportunities. Some  employees could be  displaced                                                                   
as the  use of fuel  oil is decreased  but there would  be an                                                                   
increase in gas related jobs.  He maintained that communities                                                                   
would  be more  attractive for  development and  acknowledged                                                                   
that some  could view this  negatively. Gas provides  a clean                                                                   
fuel  source with  environmental benefits.  He discussed  the                                                                   
benefits, such as a reduction in pollution.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Whitaker  concluded  that the  project  would                                                                   
bring economic growth and opportunity.  He questioned the gas                                                                   
source.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Rusanowski  noted  that they have  agreements with  Amoco                                                                   
Canada (the  largest holder  of gas  reserves in Canada).  He                                                                   
stressed that  Alaskan gas would  be used when  available and                                                                   
Cook  Inlet gas  would  be used  if additional  reserves  are                                                                   
discovered.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Rusanowski  noted that  average household consumption  is                                                                   
165  million  BTU  per year.  The  American  Gas  Association                                                                   
estimates 170 million BTU per year.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative Whitaker  questioned if the high  price of gas                                                                   
in the  market was  an anomaly and  what factors  could lower                                                                   
the price. Mr.  Rusanowski pointed out that gas  and oil have                                                                   
generally been  coupled. They were decoupled  during the last                                                                   
excursion in  prices. This has  only happened one  other time                                                                   
in the  past 30 -  40 years. Wholesale  gas prices  rose from                                                                   
$2.50 - $3.50  per million BTU's to $13 dollars.  The federal                                                                   
government  cost projection  is $4.00  dollars by next  year.                                                                   
The current cost is $5.00 dollars  per BTU. There has been an                                                                   
increase in gas exploration.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Whitaker  disagreed  that  there would  be  a                                                                   
significant reduction  of the value  of gas. Supply  is still                                                                   
out stripping  demand. The futures market indicates  that the                                                                   
prices  will  remain  high.  He  expressed  support  for  the                                                                   
project.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Rusanowski  noted that the  competition is with  fuel oil                                                                   
prices.  As long as  fuel oil  prices remain  high (they  are                                                                   
currently at $28 dollars) it doesn't matter what gas is.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Lancaster  noted   that   the  project   was                                                                   
originally  to   bring  gas   from  Alaska.  Mr.   Rusanowski                                                                   
explained that  the Cook Inlet  reserves were in  question. A                                                                   
10-year reliable  gas source is  needed. They were  unable to                                                                   
secure a  long-term commitment  for gas  from Cook  Inlet. He                                                                   
noted  the  intent  to  return  to Alaskan  gas  when  it  is                                                                   
available.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Lancaster  clarified  that  it is  not  their                                                                   
intent  to generate  power. Mr.  Rusanowski  noted that  they                                                                   
would need  certificates from  the Regulatory Commission  [in                                                                   
order to generate  power]. They could not sell  gas for power                                                                   
generation without approval.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Lancaster  questioned   the   cost  of   the                                                                   
feasibility study. Co-Chair Williams  explained that it would                                                                   
go before  AIDEA and that  AIDEA would incorporate  the cost.                                                                   
The  legislation  only  puts the  project  before  AIDEA  for                                                                   
consideration. Mr.  Rusanowski added that it would  be a year                                                                   
or two out before bonding would take place.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative John Davies asked  if the AIDEA proposal would                                                                   
come before the legislature.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KATELYN  MARKLEY, ALASKA  INDUSTRIAL  DEVELOPMENT AND  EXPORT                                                                   
AUTHORITY   (AIDEA)   testified   via   teleconference.   She                                                                   
clarified  that the once  the legislature  provides  the bond                                                                   
authorization a due diligence  process by AIDEA would have to                                                                   
be completed. This includes a  feasibility study to determine                                                                   
that  the project  is advantageous  to the  state of  Alaska.                                                                   
Sources and uses of funds would  then be reviewed. Sufficient                                                                   
revenues   for  debt   and  operation   would   have  to   be                                                                   
demonstrated.  The Alaska Industrial  Development and  Export                                                                   
Authority would  do a risk  analysis and market  review. They                                                                   
would  also  review  the  credit  strength  of  participants,                                                                   
demand  on   public  facilities,   and  adverse   affects  on                                                                   
communities.  They   would  also  assess  job   creation  and                                                                   
determine  if it  is consistent  with bonding  authorization.                                                                   
The  projects  would   also  have  to  be  approved   by  the                                                                   
communities.   The  project   would  not   come  before   the                                                                   
legislature again.  Once the  feasibility study  is completed                                                                   
the AIDEA board would approve or disapprove the project.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Harris noted that  the project would  provide                                                                   
possibilities  to reduce  rural utility  costs. He asked  the                                                                   
process involved to gain approval  from the Alaska Regulatory                                                                   
Commission to sell gas to a utility system.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Rusanowski stated  that  it would  make  sense for  some                                                                   
communities to consider  [the use of gas to  generate power].                                                                   
There would  have to be  a fully operational  and functioning                                                                   
gas utility in the community with  an alternative fuel source                                                                   
readily  available for  the  electric utility.  The  electric                                                                   
utility  could approached  the gas company.  The gas  utility                                                                   
would  have to  assess their  reserves  to see  if there  are                                                                   
sufficient reserves and how it  would affect their customers.                                                                   
The analysis  would then be  used to approach  the Regulatory                                                                   
Commission with the  electric utility to apply  for the right                                                                   
to sell gas for the purpose of  generating electricity. If it                                                                   
is  determined to  be  in the  public's  interest they  would                                                                   
determine  the rate  and  conditions for  sale.  It would  be                                                                   
initiated by the electric utility.  The Regulatory Commission                                                                   
could  determine that  the  rate should  be  higher or  lower                                                                   
depending on cost  and the service being provided  by the gas                                                                   
utility.   The   regulatory  prices   would   determine   the                                                                   
legitimate charges for the service.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
HB  236  was   heard  and  HELD  in  Committee   for  further                                                                   
consideration.                                                                                                                  

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